Legislature(1999 - 2000)

04/10/1999 10:06 AM Senate FIN

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 HOUSE BILL NO. 27                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
"An Act relating to graduate student loans; and                                                                                 
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
 CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 27(HES)                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
"An Act relating to financial aid received for medical                                                                          
education and financial aid received by students                                                                                
participating in the Western Interstate Commission on                                                                           
Higher Education Professional Student Exchange                                                                                  
Program; relating to the Western Regional Higher                                                                                
Education Compact; and providing for an effective                                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ELDON MULDER was invited to join the                                                                             
committee.  He thanked the committee for hearing HB 27 and                                                                      
explained that it was a simple bill.  It would allow Alaska                                                                     
students opportunities or access to special "slots" through                                                                     
use of the Alaska Student Loan program.  As he said, the                                                                        
bill would allow the holding of slots within WITCHIE for                                                                        
Alaska students.  It would be a full loan repayment plan.                                                                       
The biggest concern is one of access.  These are                                                                                
professional fields, which are very competitive to get                                                                          
into.  These included for example, dentistry, which were                                                                        
not available at the University of Alaska.  And it would be                                                                     
too expensive to establish these degree programs at the                                                                         
University.  The bill would allow for slots to be held for                                                                      
Alaskan students.  He referred to a letter written from a                                                                       
woman from Wasilla.  (read into the record)  He felt that                                                                       
the letter explained the situation completely for Alaskan                                                                       
students.  Further, passage of the bill would help to                                                                           
correct these difficulties.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
At this time Representative Mulder passed out an amendment                                                                      
which he said was a technical correction.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-chair Torgerson asked him to explain this.  (No number                                                                       
was issued for this amendment at this time.)                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Amendment #1 was MOVED by Senator Wilken.  Representative                                                                       
Mulder asked that Diane Barrans to be invited to join the                                                                       
committee to explain the amendment.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DIANE BARRANS, Executive Director, Post Secondary Education                                                                     
Commissioner, Department of Education was invited to join                                                                       
the committee.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-chair Torgerson asked her to explain amendment #1,                                                                           
specifically section two.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green asked about section 1 of the bill, the HES                                                                        
version.  "Are we just bringing WITCHIE back?"                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Barrans explained "WAMI" and "WITCHIE".  Senator Green                                                                      
asked the sections of the bill to be identified where these                                                                     
slots would fit in.  Representative Mulder said they would                                                                      
come under section three.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Barrans referred again to the amendment.  Senator Green                                                                     
asked if the WITCHIE program was being repealed?  Ms.                                                                           
Barrans indicated that was correct.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman asked if there were slots in other states                                                                         
that were given to their residents.  He further asked if                                                                        
our students, through the WITCHIE compact, would have the                                                                       
same priority?                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Barrans said at the time when we were participating and                                                                     
funding slots that was true.  But since the program was no                                                                      
longer funded to include these slots and that the State no                                                                      
longer participated in the programs that was no longer                                                                          
true.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams asked if in looking at the slots for Alaska                                                                       
students, was there any benefit to the State versus a                                                                           
student paying out-of-state tuition?  Ms. Barrans said                                                                          
generally not.  Support fee was more than the differential                                                                      
for non-resident tuition.  In some other cases it was less.                                                                     
It would all depend on the fee schedule for the degree                                                                          
program.  There could be some minor economical benefit,                                                                         
however, the major benefit was that the student would get                                                                       
considered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donley said he did not understand how forgiveness                                                                       
bought more seats at a university?  "We have to buy seats                                                                       
for students applying to the program?"  Ms. Barrans asked                                                                       
the question be repeated.  Senator Donley asked if we were                                                                      
buying our way into the WITCHIE program?  Ms. Barrans                                                                           
indicated that was correct.  She explained that the                                                                             
exchange program required states to pay an additional cost                                                                      
in advance.  The schools have to know that the money will                                                                       
be available.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Barrans explained the bottom line of the fiscal                                                                             
analysis.  It was not an appropriated item, however.                                                                            
Senator Donley asked about the fee being paid.                                                                                  
Representative Mulder said the student would not only pay                                                                       
the loan but the slot fee.  Senator Donley said there was a                                                                     
special component already in the medical WITCHIE program.                                                                       
Ms. Barrans replied that the students would be incurring                                                                        
about $200,000 debt.  Senator Donley asked if the bill                                                                          
would take money from the existing users of the loans to                                                                        
sign at universities for slots for Alaskans?  Ms. Barrans                                                                       
said they would just reactivate their status in the                                                                             
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donley referred to page two of the bill, WAMI.                                                                          
Where is the repayment program in the bill?  Ms. Barrans                                                                        
said it was in the amendment.  Senator Donley said he                                                                           
needed more clarification of the amendment.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green asked about changes to the student loan                                                                           
program dealt with about two to three years ago.  Is there                                                                      
a ceiling?  Ms. Barrans said a cap could not really be put                                                                      
in because they are renegotiated each year.  At present,                                                                        
the cap for an undergraduate is $60,000.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken asked the total amount of loans to be put                                                                        
out this year.  She responded about $69 million.  Senator                                                                       
Wilken said this year they recorded a profit.  Would this                                                                       
piece of legislation cause a negative impact on this                                                                            
profit?  She did not expect so.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donley asked how much a non-WAMI student could                                                                          
borrow?  Ms. Barrans responded that the amount was                                                                              
$9,500/year.  Senator Donley said there used to be a line                                                                       
item in the budget to pay for WAMI.  Would this bill cover                                                                      
the line item effect of previous?  Would the department                                                                         
make decision as to what slots were purchased?                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donley also asked about medical school?  He was                                                                         
concerned that an undergraduate would have maxed out their                                                                      
capacity to borrow.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Parnell asked about the $9,500/year borrowing                                                                           
capacity.  Ms. Barrans explained this.  Senator Parnell                                                                         
asked if there was a medical student loan program only?                                                                         
Ms. Barrans said there was no special loan program.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
WITHOUT OBJECTION amendment #1 was ADOPTED.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-chair Torgerson took a brief at ease at approximately                                                                        
11:31 a.m.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken MOVED SCS CSHB 27(FIN) and WITHOUT OBJECTION                                                                     
it was REPORTED OUT with individual recommendations and                                                                         
accompanying fiscal note from the Department of Education,                                                                      
indeterminate amount.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-chair Torgerson called HB 10.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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